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Chulin 27

CHULIN 27 - Sponsored through the generous contribution of Reb Uri Wolfson and family. May he continue to see his children grow in Torah and Yir'as Shamayim, following in the footsteps of their illustrious parents and grandparents, Shlit'a.

***** Perek 'ha'Shochet' *****


(a) Our Mishnah discusses the Shi'ur Shechitah of animals and birds. What is the difference between the basic Shechitah of an animal and that of a bird?

(b) How much of the Si'man does one need to Shecht for the Shechitah to be Kasher?

(c) Rebbi Yehudah requires Shechting the jugular veins too.
What is he referring to?

(d) Why is this necessary?

(a) What problem do we have with the Lashon 'ha'Shochet' with which the Perek begins?

(b) One of the two answers that we give is that the 'ha'Shochet' (Bedi'eved) refers to the one Si'man of a bird.
What is the other answer?

(c) What does Rav Kahana try to learn from ...

  1. ... the Lashon "Ve'shachat" (in Vayikra)?
  2. ... the Pasuk in Tazri'a "Vechitei es ha'Bayis", or from the Pasuk in Tehilim "Techat'eini be'Eizov ve'Et'har" ?
(d) And how do we know that Shechitah is performed on the neck, and not on other parts of its body which also bend, such as ...
  1. ... the tail?
  2. ... the ear (or the knee)? From where do we learn this?
(a) What problem do we have with the previous D'rashah? How could one Shecht from the ear, and still obtain Dam ha'Nefesh?

(b) Rav Yeimar tries to learn Shechitah from the Pasuk in Re'ei "Vezavachta mi'Bekarcha u'mi'Tzoncha".
What is the acronym of "Vezavachta"?

(c) What does he learn from the Pasuk in Devarim "Al Tiyra ve'Al *Teichas*"?

(d) How do we know that Shechitah is not then performed on the nose?

(e) To which other part of the body might "Ve'shachat" nevertheless be referring?

(a) Tana de'Bei Rebbi Yishmael tries to learn Shechitah from "Ve'shachat", which can also be read 'Ve'sachat'.
What is the acronym of 'Ve'sachat'?

(b) How do we query this answer, even bearing in mind that the blood from the nose is not Dam ha'Nefesh?

(c) We remain with one Kashya on each of the above opinions (from the ear, from the heart and from the tongue, respectively).
What common Kashya do we add to that?

(a) What do we therefore conclude? What is the real source of Shechitah?

(b) And we conclude that "Veshachat" comes to teach us not to make the animal a Gist'ra. Besides the Isur of D'rasah, what else might this mean?

(c) What does the word "Ve'shachat" then imply?

(d) We might also learn the P'sul of D'rasah from "Ve'shachat" (despite the 'Halachah ... ').
What does the word then mean?

(a) What problem does Rebbi Chiya in a Beraisa, have with the Pasuk in Vayikra "Ve'archu B'nei Aharon ha'Kohanim es ha'Nesachim (the pieces), *es ha'Rosh ve'es ha'Pader* (the fat)"?

(b) Based on the Pasuk "Ve'hifshit es ha'Olah Ve'nitach Osah li'Nesachim", what *do* we learn from "es Rosho ve'es Pidro, Ve'arach"?

(a) How did they bring the head on the Mizbe'ach?

(b) How do we deal with the fact that the previous D'rashah began with "es ha'Rosh ve'es ha'Pader", and concluded with "es Rosho ve'es Pidro ve'Arach"?

(c) What do we then learn from the latter quote?

(d) And what do we learn from "ve'es ha'Pader"?

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(a) There are two distinctions between Beheimah and Of regarding Tum'ah. In which way is ...
  1. ... an animal Metamei, but not a bird?
  2. ... a bird Metamei but not an animal?
(b) In which regard then, does the Tana of another Beraisa, based on the Pasuk in Shemini "Zos Toras ha'Beheimah ve'ha'Of", learn the Din of a bird from that of an animal?

(c) From where do we know that both Simanim of an animal need to be cut?

(d) And what does he then learn from "Zos"?

(a) Rebbi Eliezer in the Beraisa learns the same Hekesh, only he learns Beheimah from Of.
How does he do that? What is his source that a bird must be Shechted from the neck?

(b) What does he then learn from the Pasuk in ...

  1. ... Tzav "u'Malak es Rosho mi'Mul *Orpo*"?
  2. ... Shemini "*Zos* Toras ha'Beheimah ve'ha'Of" (quoted in the previous Beraisa)?
(c) From where do we know that a bird only requires the Shechitah of one Si'man?
(a) The Pasuk in Shemini concludes "ve'Chol Nefesh ha'Chayah ha'Romeses ba'Mayim".
What does Tani bar Kapara extrapolate from the fact that the Torah places the Din of birds in between that of animals and fish?

(b) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Beha'aloscha "ha'Tzon u'Vakar Yishachet Lahem, im es Kol Degei ha'Yam Ye'asef Lahem"?

(c) How do we query this Limud from the Pasuk there "Va'ya'sfu es ha'Selav"?
What objection do we raise in translating "Va'ya'asfu" there in the same way as we did in the previous Pasuk?

(d) How do we then justify the different translations?

(a) Ubar Gelila'ah explains that animals require the Shechitah of both Simanim, because they were created from earth, and fish require none, because they were created from water.
What is the corollary between the Shechitah and the element from which they were created?

(b) How does Ubar Gelila'ah then explain the Shechitah of one Si'man of a bird?

(c) How does Shmuel Keputka'ah prove the connection between birds and fish?

(d) What did Raban Gamliel (see Tosfos DH 've'Od Sha'alo') answer Kontrikun the Mayor when he pointed out an apparent discrepancy between the Pasuk in Bereishis, where Hashem ordered the water to produce the birds, and the Pasuk there which records how Hashem created them from earth?

(a) How did Raban Gamliel's Talmidim react to the above explanation?

(b) He replied that this is what he told his enemy (to get him off his back).
What did he really think that birds were created from?

(c) Then why does the Torah add "ve'es Kol Of ha'Shamayim", after the Pasuk "Va'yitzer Hashem Elokim min ha'Adamah Kol Chayas ha'Sadeh"? If the Torah does not insert the birds here to teach us from what Hashem created them, then why *does* it mention them here"?

(d) Others invert the two answers of Raban Gamliel, telling Kontrikun the Mayor that Hashem created the birds out of water, and his Talmidim that they were made out of mud.
On what grounds do they do that?

(a) What does Rav Yehudah in the name of Rebbi Yitzchak ben Pinchas learn from the Pasuk in Acharei-Mos (in connection with Kisuy ha'Dam) "Ve'shafach es Damo ... "?

(b) What does he then learn from the Hekesh "Zos Toras ha'Beheimah ve'ha'Of"?

(c) In that case, how will he define a Nivlas Of?

(d) Bearing in mind that the Pasuk is talking about Chayos as well as Ofos, how does Rav Yehudah know that "Ve'shafach es Damo" is coming to exempt birds from Shechitah, and not Chayos?

(a) What do we ask on Rav Yehudah from the Beraisa 'ha'Shochet ve'Nisnablah be'Yado, ha'Nocher v'ha'Me'aker, Patur mi'Lechasos'?

(b) How do we establish the Beraisa, in order to refute the Kashya?

(c) We ask on him further from another Beraisa. What does the Tana say about someone who Shechts, because he needs the blood?

(d) To avoid having to cover the blood, the Tana advises 'O Nochro O Okro'. What makes us think that the Tana is talking about a bird (a Kashya on Rav Yehudah)?

(e) What do we answer? What use is the blood of a Chayah?

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