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Chulin 35


(a) What does Rebbi Yonasan say about someone who eats a Shelishi shel Terumah?

(b) Having stated the opinion of ...

  1. ... Ula (who says the same with regard to a Shelishi shel Chulin she'Na'asu be'Taharas Terumah), why do we need to cite that of Rebbi Yonasan.
  2. ... Rebbi Yonasan, why do we find it necessary to cite that of Ula?
(a) Rav Yitzchak bar Shmuel bar Marsa said before Rav Nachman that if someone eats a Shelishi shel Chulin she'Na'asu al Taharas Hekdesh, his body is Tahor to eat Kodshim.
Why is that?

(b) What is the basis of this distinction? Surely if Chulin she'Na'asu al Taharas Hekdesh is considered Hekdesh, then it should apply in this case too.

(c) Rami bar Chama queries him however, from the Mishnah in Taharos 'Shelishi Sheini le'Kodesh ... be'Chulin she'Na'asu al Taharas Terumah'.
What is the Kashya?

(d) What did Rav Yitzchak bar Shmuel bar Marsa reply?

(a) Rav Yitzchak bar Shmuel bar Marsa cites a Mishnah in Chagigah as the source for his answer.
What does the Mishnah say there about the clothes of ...
  1. ... 'Perushin' (those who eat their Chulin be'Taharah) and Kohanim Ochlei Terumah (be'Taharah)?
  2. ... Kohanim Ochlei Terumah (be'Taharah) and those of Ochlei Kodesh (be'Taharah)?
(b) On what grounds does Rava refute the proof from that Mishnah? What makes Medras different than Negi'ah?

(c) What does Rebbi Yitzchak say?

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(a) The Mishnah in Chagigah refers to an Am-ha'Aretz who comes with a barrel of wine (after the wine-making season is over), which he now wants to sell to a Kohen.
What does the Tana there rule if the Am ha'Aretz ...
  1. ... claims that it is Tahor?
  2. ... adds that he poured a Revi'is of Kodesh (Nesachim wine) into the barrel?
(b) What Kashya did Rav Yirmiyah from Difti ask from there on Rebbi Yitzchak (who does not distinguish between the Medras of clothes and the Negi'ah of fruit)?

(c) What did Rebbi Yitzchak reply?

(a) The Mishnah in Taharos rules that ...
  1. ... 'Sheini she'be'Chulin renders Chulin liquid, Tamei and OchleiTerumah, Pasul.
    What level of Tum'ah does it render the Chulin liquid?
  2. ... 'Shelishi (she'be'Chulin) renders Kodesh liquid Tamei.
    What does it render Ochlei Kodesh?
(b) How does the Tana establish 'Kodesh'?

(c) How do we reconcile this with Rav Yitzchak bar Shmuel bar Marsa (who confines the decree of Revi'i to real Hekdesh)?

(d) The Tana Kama in a Beraisa considers Chulin she'Na'asu al Taharas Hekdesh, Chulin. Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Tzadok says 'Harei Hein ki'Terumah'.
What does he add to that?

(a) What does Rav Asi say about the Shechitah of an animal, according to Rebbi Shimon (in connection with the Din of Hechsher Lekabeil Tum'ah)?

(b) What difference does it make whether it is the Shechitah or the blood that is Machshir?

(c) Why is there no proof for Rav Asi from our Mishnah, where Rebbi Shimon says 'Huchsheru bi'Shechitah', implying but not via the blood?

(a) What do we extrapolate from Rebbi Shimon in a Mishnah in Machshirin 'Dam ha'Meis Eino Machshir', that poses a Kashya on Rav Asi?

(b) We refute this Kashya by changing the inference. If it does not come to preclude Dam Shechitah, then what does it come to preclude?

(c) In that case, we ask, why does Rebbi Shimon does not rather present the case of Dam Shechitah than Dam ha'Meis.
Why should he have?

(d) We answer that in fact, Dam ha'Meis is a bigger Chidush than Dam Shechitah.
Why is that?

(a) Rebbi Shimon in a Beraisa rules that Dam Magefto is not Machshir either.
What is Dam 'Magefto'?

(b) And here too, we explain that, according to Rav Asi, Rebbi Shimon prefers to present the Din of Dam Magefto than Dam Shechitah, because it is a bigger Chidush.
Why is that?

(c) Why would we not also think the same about Dam Shechitah?

(a) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Balak "ve'Dam Chalalim Yishteh"?

(b) By the same token, what would we have expected to learn from the Pasuk in Re'ei "al ha'Aretz Tishpechenu ka'Mayim"?

(c) According to Rav Asi in Rebbi Shimon, what do we learn from there?

(d) Why would we otherwise have thought that the blood of Pesulei ha'Mukdashin is forbidden?

(a) Tana de'Bei Rebbi Yishmael learns from "ve'Dam Chalalim Yishteh" that Dam Kilu'ach is not Machshir.
What is 'Dam Kilu'ach'?

(b) Which blood *is* Machshir?

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