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Chulin 64

CHULIN 64 - sponsored by Dr. and Mrs. Shalom Kelman of Baltimore, Maryland, USA. May Hashem bless them with long years filled with Torah, Chidushei Torah, and Nachas!


(a) Based on a Beraisa, we ask why it is not possible to examine the eggs by their Simanim.
Why is the Beraisa's statement comparing the Simanim of fish to the Simanim of eggs unacceptable?

(b) So how do we amend the Beraisa.
What does the Tana mean to say?

(c) What does the Tana mean by 'the fetuses of fish?

(a) The Tana defines a Kasher egg as being 'Koderes va'Agolgoles'.
Why does he need to mention both expressions? What do we learn from ...
  1. ... Koderes?
  2. ... Agolgoles?
(b) What additional specification is required in its shape to be considered a Kasher egg?

(c) What does the Tana say about an egg whose yellow ...

  1. ... surrounds the white?
  2. ... is mixed with the yellow?
(d) What kind of Sheretz lays eggs?
(a) Then why does Shmuel's father require the Nochri's testimony at all? Why can one not simply examine ...
  1. ... the shape of the eggs?
  2. ... the positioning of the white and the yellow?
(b) This answer is unacceptable however, based on a Beraisa.
What does the Tana say about selling a Nochri the egg of a bird that is a Tereifah?

(c) Why is that?

(d) How does that negate our previous answer?

(a) Rebbi Zeira therefore concludes that Simanim are not min ha'Torah. How does he prove it from the eight Sefeikos of Rav Asi (cited earlier)?

(b) Then why does the Beraisa describe the Simanim of a Kasher egg?

(c) In any case, if only Kasher eggs possessed the Simanim described by the Tana, we could rely on them.
Why does Shmuel's father then require the Nochri's testimony?

(a) We learned in the Beraisa that if the white in the yellow are mixed, it is the egg of a Sheretz.
What do we ask on this statement?

(b) Rav Ukva bar Chama establishes the Beraisa with regards to Tum'as Sheretz. Which two conditions are required for this to be applicable?

(c) What is the Shi'ur Tum'ah of a Sheretz?

(d) On what grounds do we refute Rav Ukva bar Chama's answer? Whose egg might it be, that is not subject to Tum'ah?

(a) So Rava establishes the Beraisa with regard to Malkos.
Under what condition is the person who eats it Chayav Malkos because of "Sheretz ha'Shoretz al ha'Aretz"?

(b) What difference does it make whether he receives Malkos for eating the egg of a Tamei animal, or a Sheretz?

(c) What does the Beraisa learn from the Pasuk in Shemini "Kol ha'Sheretz ha'Shoretz al ha'Aretz"?

(d) Then why do we need to establish the Beraisa specifically by the egg of a Tamei bird, seeing as the Isur applies equally to that of a Tahor one?

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(a) What does the Beraisa mean when it permits 'Gi'ulei Beitzim'?

(b) Why is that?

(c) The Tana also permits Beitzim Muzaros.
What are 'Beitzim Muzaros'?
Who would not eat them?

(a) What does the Tana say about a blood- spot that one finds in an egg?

(b) Rebbi Yirmiyah qualifies this ruling, confining it to where it is found on the 'knot'.
What is the 'knot'?

(c) What is the reason for this?

(d) What will be the Din if it is found elsewhere?

(a) Rebbi Yirmiyah seems to conform with the Beraisa cited by Dustai, the father of Rebbi Apturiki.
What distinction does he make to explain when the rest of the egg is permitted and when it is not?

(b) Rav Gevihah from Bei Kasil told Rav Ashi that this is the way Abaye established the Beraisa.
How did the Beraisa expert initially cite it?

(a) What does Chizkiyah learn from the Pasuk ...
  1. ... in Shemini (in connection with the Tamei birds) "ve'es *bas* ha'Ya'anah"? What prompts him to learn like that?
  2. ... in Eichah "bas Ami le'Achzar, ka'Ye'einim ba'Midbar"?
(b) Then how does he interpret the Pasuk ...
  1. ... in Michah "E'eseh Misped ka'Teinim, ve'Avel ki'Benos Ya'anah"?
  2. ... in Yeshayah "Ve'shichnu Sham b'nos Ya'anah"?
(c) How do we prove from the Pasuk there "Techabdeini Chayas ha'Sadeh Teinim u'Benos Ya'anah" that an ostrich is also called a bas-Ya'anah?
(a) How do we nevertheless vindicate Chizkiyah, who interprets "bas ha'Ya'anah" in Shemini as an ostrich egg?

(b) What Kashya do we ask on this from the Pasuk in Vayeira "K'dar La'omer" (one of the four kings)?

(c) How do we answer the Kashya?

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