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Chulin 91

CHULIN 91 - Dedicated for a Refu'ah Shelemah for Yehoshua Heschel ben Ayeleth. May the Talmud Torah d'Rabim sponsored in his honor protect him and gain him a full and speedy recovery.


(a) According to Rav Ashi, the Beraisa, which requires the Gidin to be burned, is not referring to the actual Gidin, but to the Shuman ha'Gid.
What does he mean?

(b) Why does it then need to be burning?

(a) Similarly, Ravina quotes Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel to explain the Beraisa.
What does he say about the inner and outer Gidin? Why are they called by those names?

(b) What else distinguishes the inner Gid from the outer one?

(c) To which Gid is the Beraisa now referring?

(a) The Tana Kama in another Beraisa, prescribes two sets of Malkos for someone who eats one k'Zayis from each Gid.
What does Rebbi Yehudah say?

(b) What problem do we have with that, based on Rebbi Yehudah's ruling regarding someone who strikes both of his Safek fathers one after the other (as we learned in 'Oso ve'es B'no')?

(c) We answer by citing another Beraisa, which discusses someone who leaves over from the Korban Pesach until the morning.
Why, according to Rebbi Yehudah, does he not receive Malkos?

(d) What does this prove?

(a) The Tana Kama of yet another Beraisa sentences someone who eats two Gidin of two thighs of two animals, to two two sets of Malkos.
What does Rebbi Yehudah say?

(b) What do we extrapolate from the fact that the Tana speak about two thighs of two animals (rather than of the same animal)?

(c) What does this prove?

(d) Then why, according to Rebbi Yehudah, does he only receive one set of Malkos and not two?

(a) How does Rebbi Yehudah learn that the Isur Gid ha'Yerech pertains specifically to the right one, from the Pasuk in Vayishlach ...
  1. ... "Asher al Kaf ha'Yarech" (Rava)?
  2. ... "be'He'avko Imo" (RebbiYehoshua ben Levi)?
(b) What do the Rabbanan learn from the 'Hey' of "Kaf ha'Yarech"?

(c) According to Rebbi Shmuel bar Nachmeni, Ya'akov placed the Angel of Eisav on his right hand side for protection like Mar said, because the latter resembled a Nochri.
What did Mar say about someone who is joined by a Nochri on a journey?

(d) Whom did the Angel resemble, according to Rav Shmuel bar Acha in the name of Rava bar Ula? Why did he therefore place him on his right side?

(e) This is based on another statement of Mar.
What did Mar say about someone who walks on the right of his Rebbe?

(a) All of the above opinions come to expain Rebi Yehudah.
What happened according to the Rabbanan?

(b) Based on a Pasuk in Nachum (in connection with Hashem) "ve'Anan Avak Raglav", what do the Rabbanan learn from "be'He'avko Imo" (with a 'Gezeirah-Shavah' of Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi)?

(c) How does Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi explain the words "Gid ha'Nasheh"?

(d) How does Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina interpret the Pasuk ...

  1. ... in Yeshayah "Davar Shalach Hashem be'Ya'akov, Nafal be'Yisrael"?
  2. ... in Mikeitz (in connection with Yosef's preparation for the Se'udah with his brothers) "u'Tevo'ach Tevach ...
  3. ... ve'Hachein"?
(e) What can we extrapolate from Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina's latter ruling (in connection with the dating of Gid ha'Nasheh)?
(a) How does Rebbi Elazar explain the Pasuk "Va'yivaser Ya'akov Levado"?

(b) We can learn from there how Tzadikim value everything that they own (even at the risk of their own safety).
Why is that?

(a) What does Rebbi Yitzchak learn from the fact that the Angel attacked Ya'akov and struggled with him until dawnbreak?

(b) Rebbi Aba bar Kahana learns it from the Pasuk in Rus, where Naomi informed Rus what Boaz would do after winnowing the barley. What did she tell her? What does that prove?

(c) Rebbi Avahu learns it from the Pasuk in Vayeira "Va'yashkem Avraham ba'Boker, and the Rabbanan from Ya'akov, who sent Yosef to visit his brothers with the words "Lech Na Re'ei es Sh'lom Achecha ... ".
What is the proof from there?

(d) How does Rav bring a final proof from Ya'akov himself? On what occasion did the sun prove beneficial to him?

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(a) Rebbi Akiva asked Raban Gamliel and Rebbi Yehoshua on the Pasuk "Va'yizrach Lo ha'Shemesh", whilst they were on their way to purchase an animal in the butchery of Im'um.
What was the occasion?

(b) What did Rebbi Akiva ask them?

(c) To answer the Kashya, how does Rebbi Yitzchak link this Pasuk with the Pasuk in the previous Parshah "Va'yeitzei Ya'akov ... Va'yifga ba'Makom"?

(a) In the Pasuk in Vayeitzei "Vayeitzei Ya'akov ... Ve'yeilech Charanah ... Va'yifga ba'Makom".
What does "ba'Makom" refer to?

(b) How does Rebbi Yitzchak then explain the Pasuk? If Ya'akov went to *Charan*, what was he doing in the Makom ha'Mikdash?

(c) What else does "Vayifga ba'Makom" mean?

(d) Why did the sun then set prematurely?

(a) How does Rebbi Yitzchak reconcile the Pasuk there "Va'yikach me'Avnei ha'Makom" (implying that he took a number of stones) with the Pasuk "Va'yikach es ha'Even (singular) Asher Sam me'Ra'ashosav"?

(b) If, as the Beraisa proves from a Pasuk in Daniel, one angel is two thousand Parsah wide, how wide was the ladder about which Ya'akov dreamt?

(c) According to another Beraisa (which appears to disagree with the previous one), what is the significance of ...

  1. ... "Olim ve'Yordim Bo"?
  2. ... "ve'Hinei Hashem Nitzav Alav"?
(d) Why did the Angels want to harm Ya'akov?

(e) What does Resh Lakish comment on this incident? Why is it difficult to understand?

(a) What was so special about the four Amos that Hashem promised Ya'akov and his children when He said 'ha'Aretz Asher Atah Shochev Alehah, Lecha Etnenah u'le'Zar'echa"?

(b) Why did He do that?

(c) What was Ya'akov's response to the angel's request to let him go because dawn-break had arrived?

(d) What did the angel reply to that?

(a) This is a proof for Rav Chananel Amar Rav, who said that Hashem creates three groups of angels each day.
What does each group sing?

(b) We query this however, from a Beraisa, which describes the superiority of Yisrael over the angels.
If some angels sing Shirah once a day, others once a week and yet others once a year, how often do the remaining three groups sing Shirah (respectively)?

(c) In what way are Yisrael superior to the angels ...

  1. ... in this regard?
  2. ... regarding to priorities? Who sings Shirah first?
(d) What other superior trait does Yisrael enjoy regarding the wording of their 'Shirah'?
(a) What is the Kashya on Rav Chananel Amar Rav from the Beraisa?

(b) How do we therefore amend Rav's statement?

(c) What do we ask on the Beraisa from 'Baruch'?

(d) One answer is that it is the Ofanim who sing 'Baruch, whereas we are referring to the Serafim (see Tosfos DH 'Baruch').
What is an alternative answer?

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