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Chulin 109


(a) With reference to Rebbi's opinion based on the Chachamim's ruling, why can Rebbi not mean that the pot was stirred or covered only at the end?

(b) If he is therefore referring to where it was stirred or covered from beginning to end, what do the Rabbanan themselves say?

(c) What can we extrapolate from there with reference to the opinion of the Chachamim?

(d) What have we now clarified with regard to 'Efshar Lesochto'? Who holds what?

(a) How does Rav Acha mi'Difti query this explanation? If, as he suggests, even the Rabbanan hold 'Efshar Lesochto Asur', on what grounds will they permit the other pieces in the pot?

(b) What are the ramifications of the two interpretations in the Rabbanan?
What Chumra would emerge, if we were to adopt Rav Acha mi'Difti's suggestion?

(c) And how will the interpretation of the Rabbanan's statement 'ad she'Titein Ta'am be'Rotav ... ' differ according to the two interpretations?

(a) How did Ravina refute Rav Acha mi'Difti? What would Rebbi have had to say, had the Rabbanan held 'I Efshar Lesochto Asur', and only argued with regard to the other pieces?

(b) Why is that?

(c) What is the concluding statement in the Sugya?

(a) Aside from the fact that Rebbi agrees with Rebbi Yehudah that 'Efshar Lesochto, Asur', what other reason is there to rule like that?

(b) What will be the Din if half a k'Zayis of milk falls on to a piece of meat, and there are more pieces in the pot (which amount to Shishim), and one stirred or covered the pot ...

  1. ... after the first piece became Asur?
  2. ... from the moment that the milk fell into it?
(c) Bearing in mind that Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish (in Avodah Zarah) hold 'Miyn be'Miyno Bateil', why do we nevertheless follow the opinion of Rav and Shmuel, who hold 'Miyn be'Miyno Lo Bateil'?
(a) What does our Mishnah require one to do before eating an udder or a heart?

(b) What does the Tana rule in the event that he ate either of them without tearing it open?

(c) Why is he not Chayav in the case of ...

  1. ... the udder?
  2. ... the heart?
(d) Why is he not Chayav for eating the heart, which is the size of a k'Zayis?
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(a) Rebbi Zeira Amar Rav comments on our Mishnah 'ha'Kechal ... Lo Kar'o, Eino Over Alav' ... 'u'Mutar'.
What is the problem with that?

(b) How do we nevertheless justify his comment, in view of the Seifa?

(c) What does 'Eino Over Alav' now mean with regard to ...

  1. ... the udder?
  2. ... the heart?
(a) What distinction does the Beraisa draw between a case where one cooked the udder on the one hand, and the heart, on the other, without first tearing it open?

(b) How do we refute the proof from there that the 'milk' in the udders is permitted Lechatchilah?

(c) If that is so, what makes the milk in the udders worse than the blood in the heart?

(d) What does Rebbi Zeira Amar Rav comment, according to the second Lashon?

(a) In the Beraisa that we cite in support of the first Lashon of Rebbi Zeira Amar Rav, what distinction does the Tana draw between the udder of an animal and the stomach of a lamb or a calf that was cooked together with its milk?

(b) If the milk in the udders of an animal is not considered milk, why does our Mishnah then require its removal Lechatchilah?

(c) According to Rav Yehudah, what does the Tana mean when he says 'Kor'o u'Motzi es Chelbo'? What exactly, must one do?

(d) Rebbi Elazar disagrees with that.
What did he mean when he instructed his servant to 'tear it open and he would eat it' (which seems to be merely repeating what the Mishnah says)?

(a) What did Yalsa say to Rav Nachman about everything that the Torah forbids? Who was Yalsa?

(b) Where does the Torah permit a taste of ...

  1. ... blood?
  2. ... Nidah?
  3. ... Cheilev of a Beheimah?
(c) And if the Torah gives us the taste of Chazir in the brain of the Shivuta fish, and that of a Girusa bird in the tongue of a fish, where does it allow us the taste of ...
  1. ... Eishes Ish?
  2. ... Eishes Ach?
  3. ... a Nochris?
(a) How did Rav Nachman respond when Yalsa told him that she fancied a taste of Basar be'Chalav?

(b) How do we reconcile that with our Mishnah, which requires that one first tears it open?

(c) How will Rav Nachman ...

  1. ... establish the Beraisa 'K'chal she'Bishlo be'Chelbo Mutar', implying Bedi'eved?
  2. ... explain the Beraisa?
(d) How does he then interpret our Mishnah?
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