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Chulin 122

CHULIN 122 (4 Sivan) - Dedicated by Rabbi Kornfeld's father, Mr. David Kornfeld, in memory of the members of his family who perished at the hands of the Nazi murderers in the Holocaust and whose Yahrzeit is observed today: his mother (Mirel bas Yakov Mordechai), brothers (Shraga Feivel, Aryeh Leib and Yisachar Dov, sons of Mordechai), grandfather (Reb Yakov Mordechai ben Reb David [Shpira]) and aunt (Charne bas Yakov Mordechai [wife of Reb Moshe Aryeh Cohen]).


(a) What does Rav Huna say about two half- k'Zeisim of Basar on a piece of skin of a Neveilah?

(b) We query this from a Machlokes between Rebbi Yishmael and Rebbi Akiva in a Mishnah later. According to Rebbi Yishmael, someone who carries such a skin becomes Tamei.
What does Rebbi Akiva say?

(c) What is now the problem with Rav Huna's ruling 'mi'Mah Nafshach'?

(d) What distinction does Rav Huna draw to reconcile his own opinion with Rebbi Yishmael?

(a) In his earlier statement, Rav Huna explaining Rebbi Yehudah, stated 've'Hu she'Kinso'. Considering that Rebbi Yehudah is speaking by Paltaso Sakin, why must he hold that in a case of Paltaso Sakin, 'Ein ha'Or Mevatlo'?

(b) What problem does this now create with Rav Huna's second statement?

(c) Why is the Kashya on Rav Huna from Rav Huna's own statement, and not from Rebbi Yehudah in our Mishnah? Were it not for Rav Huna, how would we have established Rebbi Yehudah?

(a) How do wow dooiwe therefore establish ...
  1. ... Rebbi Yishmael?
  2. ... Rav Huna?
(b) How do we answer the Kashya that we asked earlier 'vi'I Aliba de'Rebbi Akiva, P'shita'?

(c) How do we prove this from the Lashon of the Mishnah itself?

(a) Our Mishnah lists among the things whose skin is like Basar, human skin and that of a domesticated Chazir.
What does Rebbi Yehudah add to that?

(b) The Mishnah then includes the skin of part of a camel and of part of a kid-goat.
Which part of ...

  1. ... camel?
  2. ... a kid goat?
(c) The Tana also includes the skin of the Beis ha'Perasos (which will be explained in the Sugya) and that of a female animal's womb.
Which other two skins (besides those of rodents), does the Tana include in his list?
(a) Of the eight rodents, the Tana includes the skins of only four. Besides the skin of a hedgehog and a Ko'ach (a type of lizard, possibly a chameleon), he includes that of a Leta'ah and a Chomet.
What is a ...
  1. Leta'ah?
  2. Chomet?
(b) What does Rebbi Yehudah mean when he says 'ha'Leta'ah ke'Chuldah'?

(c) The Tana concludes that if one tanned any of the above they are Tahor.
What is the alternative to tanning them?

(d) What is the one exception to the rule?

(e) What does Rebbi Yochanan ben Nuri say about the skins of Sheratzim?

(a) If, as Ula says Or Adam is Tahor min ha'Torah, why did the Rabbanan decree that it should be Tamei?

(b) According to others, Ula goes on the Seifa 've'Chulan she'Ibdan ... , Tehorin Chutz me'Or Adam'.
What is the difference between the two opinions?

(c) What is the basis of the Machlokes between the Tana Kama and Rebbi Yehudah regarding the skin of a boar?

(a) How does Ula Amar Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi define 'Gamal ha'Rakah' in our Mishnah?

(b) Rebbi Yirmiyah asked whether this incorporates a camel that has reached the age at which camels normally begin to carry, even though it has not actually begun to carry yet.
What similar She'eilah did Abaye ask?

(c) What is the outcome of the two She'eilos?

(a) How did Resh Lakish react when, in answer to his She'eilah, Rebbi Yishmael bar Aba quoted Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi?

(b) What caused Rebbi Zeira to become upset with Ravin bar Chin'na?

(c) What did he say to him?

(a) What comment do we make to highlight the respective reactions of the two Amora'im?

(b) What are we trying to point out with that?

(c) And what are we referring to when we describe ...

  1. ... Resh Lakish as 'Tekifei Eretz Yisrael'?
  2. ... Rebbi Zeira as 'Chasidei Bavel'?
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(a) Ula defines 'Eigel ha'Rach' (regarding Or ke'Basar) in our Mishnah as a calf in its first year.
What does Rebbi Yochanan say?

(b) What does Rebbi Yochanan mean, assuming that Ula meant to say ...

  1. ... that it must be in its first year, in addition to the fact that it is still feeding?
  2. ... that it only needs to be in its first year, irrespective of whether it is feeding or not?
(c) How do we resolve the She'eilah from the Lashon of Rebbi Yochanan 'Kol Z'man she'Yonek'? What would he have said according to the second side of the She'eilah?
(a) What did Rebbi Yochanan reply when Resh Lakish ...
  1. ... asked him whether the skin of the head of a tender calf is Metamei?
  2. ... queried him from our Mishnah, which Rebbi Yochanan himself had taught him?
(b) The Beraisa cited by Rebbi Yochanan, rules that if someone Shechts an Olah having in mind to burn a k'Zayis of the skin under the fat-tail in the wrong place, the Olah is Pasul but there is no Kareis.
What does the Tana say in a case where one had in mind to bring it on the Mizbe'ach but in the wrong time?

(c) What is the Chidush? Why might we have thought otherwise?

(a) What do Rebbi Ya'akov and Rebbi Shimon ben Yehudah from the village of Ikum say about the Or ha'Perasos, that of the head of a tender calf and that which is under the fat-tail of a sheep?

(b) What do they mean to include when they add to the list 'all that the Chachamim listed with regard to Tum'ah, whose skin is like its flesh'?

(c) What does Rebbi Yochanan prove from there?

(d) According to Rav, 'Beis ha'Perasos' means literally the skin of the feet.
What does Rebbi Chanina say?

(a) What does the Beraisa learn from the Pasuk in Shemini (in connection with the Sheratzim) "Eileh *ha'Temei'im* Lachem"?

(b) But did we not already learn from there (in 'Kol ha'Basar') that the Tzir, Rotav and Kifah are included in the Isur of Sheratzim?

(c) And what does the Tana learn from "Eileh", according to Rav?

(d) What reason does Rav give for this distinction?

(a) According to Rav, how come that our Mishnah does not list 'Tinshemes'?

(b) Rav Shisha b'rei de'Rav Idi (or Rav Ashi) cites Rebbi Yehudah as the source of our Mishnah (which omits from the Din of Or ke'Basar both the three Sheratzim in the earlier Pasuk, as well as the Tinshemes). What does he mean? Which Rebbi Yehudah is he referring to?

(c) How does this explain why the Tana omitted the four Sheratzim that it did?

(d) Which other Machlokes Tana'im does he explain in the same way?

(a) Our Mishnah maintains that, short of tanning the skins of the animals involved, one has to walk with them, in order to negate their Tum'ah.
How do we reconcile this with the Beraisa cited by Rebbi Chiya 'Ozen Chamor she'Tal'ah le'Kupaso, Tehorah' (implying that it is not necessary to walk with them)?

(b) owHowsInto what distance does Rav Huna Amar Rebbi Yanai translate 'K'dei Ibud'?

(a) What does Rebbi Avahu Amar Resh Lakish say about 'le'Gabal ve'li'Tefilah'.
What do they both have in common? (b) What does he mean by ...
  1. ... 'Legabal'?
  2. ... 'li'Tefilah'?
(c) Which third case does he add to the list?

(d) According to Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak, it was Ayvu (Rav's father) who quoted Resh Lakish, and what's more, he presented not three cases, but four.
Which fourth case did he add to the list?

(a) Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina qualifies the previous ruling with regard to Tefilah and Netilas Yadayim.
What does he say?

(b) What does Rav Acha bar Ya'akov extrapolate from the Lashon ' ... Afilu Mil Echad Eino Chozer'?

(c) The Beraisa rules that if a legion passing from place to place enters a house, the house is Tamei.
Why is that?

(d) What support does the Tana bring for this ruling?

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